Louis CK Everything Is Amazing And Nobody Is Happy
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By ythn 2017-09-20
> Anyone would agree that this is a desirable thing, right?
I absolutely think this is a great thing. I just think a lot of people don't realize how great it truly is to be living in the USA in 2017. I think we as a society have a hard time keeping things in perspective.
> I wouldn't mind if poverty meant not having a personal yacht and living in an apartment instead of a suburban house in 2040.
Yeah, but you'll be able to keep things in perspective having lived in 2017. The rising generation in 2040 will have no perspective, and to them a yacht will be a "basic necessity needed to function" in society and anything less is poverty (or whatever, that was a contrived example).
> If you allowed people to choose, be poor in 2017 or be poor in 1400, most would still prefer 2017.
Not only that, if you allowed people to choose to be poor in 2017 or be rich in 1400, most people would either choose poor 2017 or they would choose rich 1400 and then regret it once they realize how much they've lost (smooth roads, suspension systems on modern transportation, climate control, etc.).
> Which means it's an improvement, regardless of how happy people say they are.
I agree. But if improvements don't result in a net increase in happiness, what's the point of making the improvements? I agree we should continue to make improvements, but clearly there is some other special sauce required to increase happiness that we are missing here. The poor of 2017 have it 1000x better than the poor in the 1400s, yet are the current poor 1000x happier? Or are they still sad?
> The main issue with communism/socialism is that it doesn't work
Ok, I'm following you
> It doesn't make sense to worry about something being technically communism or not, when the tangible result is that people are better off on average.
But wait, if communism doesn't work, shouldn't you be worried about a scheme whose end-game turns your government into communism? I'm still trying to understand how UBI doesn't eventually end up as communism. Who draws the line and says we've redistributed enough? How to we prevent the line from moving to the point where all wealth is redistributed (aka communism)?
> You could make this argument about any wealth redistribution scheme ever.
Which is why I'm generally against them. There are exceptions, but in general, wealth redistribution schemes are not wise long-term decisions.
By flippyhead 2017-09-20
I find myself often thinking this. Louis CK sums it up really well when he says "everything is amazing and nobody is happy": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8LaT5Iiwo4
By mwcampbell 2017-09-28
On the one hand, it's a common sentiment that we should just be grateful for how great things are today. See, for example, the famous comedy routine "Everything is Amazing and Nobody is Happy" by Louis CK .
On the other hand, would we have cell phones, ubiquitous credit card-capable point of sale machines, and airplanes with in-flight Internet, if people hadn't dared to dream that things could be better?
And sometimes, you have to drop existing systems, or aspects of them, to get to that better future. For example, on a cell phone, you don't actually get a dial tone and send DTMF in real time, as one did on a touch-tone landline phone. (This reminds me of jacquesm's contrast of DTMF and GSM , posted in the comment thread for part 1.)
By tacon 2017-11-21
>The magic has become mundane.
Classic Louis CK routine: "It's going to SPACE!"
By icebraining 2018-05-04
We'd be living in times that'd make us look back on romantic poets as stodgy.
I don't think that follows, because people adjust to the improved situation. To take a case where the gains are pretty undeniable, nobody celebrates regularly that they are much less likely to get polio or some other disease that used to be much more common. We just adjust to the new reality, and keep complaining about the diseases we do get today.
By askafriend 2018-05-17
What if the novelty of the internet just wore off for you?
Just like the novelty of flying in the sky in a metal cage propelled by giant jet engines to far away lands has probably worn off.
Everything is magical, but even magic becomes mundane after a while.